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		By: Lionel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2013 06:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indeed this build im using until now, it also suits my style of playing~ so far doesn&#039;t met any problem~ but in the future my change abit. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed this build im using until now, it also suits my style of playing~ so far doesn&#8217;t met any problem~ but in the future my change abit. 🙂</p>
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		By: admin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2917&quot;&gt;Zad&lt;/a&gt;.

The skill tree seems pretty good. Depending on equipment, overall that&#039;s about the same build I&#039;d recommend to most people. Depending on itemization it might be necessary to pick up a few more health points, so I guess new builds will have to be adapted to each individual player; which is actually a good thing, Path of Life Nodes was lame. 

I should be able to revise my original build in a day or two once I&#039;m more sure about everything,  but seems both of us already figured pretty much the same things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2917">Zad</a>.</p>
<p>The skill tree seems pretty good. Depending on equipment, overall that&#8217;s about the same build I&#8217;d recommend to most people. Depending on itemization it might be necessary to pick up a few more health points, so I guess new builds will have to be adapted to each individual player; which is actually a good thing, Path of Life Nodes was lame. </p>
<p>I should be able to revise my original build in a day or two once I&#8217;m more sure about everything,  but seems both of us already figured pretty much the same things.</p>
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		By: Zad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gonna throw some more of my thoughts and experience to the mix. Managed to beat all 3 difficulties with this build 100% solo, ~95% self-found (got donated a few items by a person who died in hardcore, but no trading with other players of any sort besides that). This was in open beta following the original skill tree and other suggestions. 0 deaths in normal, about 10 each in cruel and merciless (most notable issues with Weaver, Vaal, Kole, Piety). No experience with any other builds in this game, but I really like the concept of this one and being able to solo things is very important for me as well. Plus for some reason I like str/dex builds way more than int ones in these kind of games.

When the game was fully released I tried to make this build work out with 3 auras, but it was both difficult and didn&#039;t seem worthwhile. After some reading/thinking it seems that 2 will have to do (grace (or determination) + hatred) and extra defense will come from Cast when damage taken (unleveled) + Decoy Totem + Enduring Cry + Enfeeble or something similar (idea from the Blender guide brought up by Cpt). Seems like Cleave needs to be replaced with Dual Strike + Melee Splash as well. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAmSu9gavFR35lTYTZWNtT35uDhO907XrvYEsFLUCgnrm-p9JNwA_v42NwNJO2QU4qKaUl3xv6pBkB3L6KeA1YrzboAeefy6cw974UIFBHGS4n7fPdrKpyqXzZ1I-53fIv7w7nUlRJRmmpbrXybqpKyF8_9kiMz1BQWGPG2D38fLgpLmxGcmwyCRc-IWASIF6Lz_gR1WBBV5ebLRRxQarxiidP-Ov3Mluv3Q38xWegh3ZKfbcXOJZ469yC5wrvetN-cHIDh5VmG61I7niuypAXHVz5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s my current passive tree plan&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;ve also created a little side-project Scion in Domination league with largely the same foundation except I&#039;ll be using Spectral Throw with Greater/Lesser Multiple Projectiles support and a 2-handed weapon - planning to go for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAm12omvKXWlJKyG6qtfKpbmxGcmwyCSft892sqnKpfNkZLtSPud3yL-8O51JUSV8_9kiMz1BQWGPG2D38fLgpLngNWK826DpSMn4B55_LpzD3vhQgUEe-igHcpBkb-iXfYSGE2WVNR36rxW5pvqfSTcAP1e1qk7ZBTioppYTvdO1672BLBS1AoJ65hyk7KAOWbj1gQ4MJns3SIVcN2WFGaamUkGyHaluv3Q38xWegh3ZKfVb6iiLA83z1wKZVtcEE3D0hVTkOqXP8iesJCZYnIK3kEtkaPg==&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these passives&lt;/a&gt;. Both get about 160-170% life from nodes and it&#039;s easy to switch out damage for life when necessary. I don&#039;t like specializing weapon-wise so planning to take generic damage nodes only. I really like playing solo, fully cleaning areas and reading/listening to npc chats/lore so I&#039;m moving forward rather slowly though. Maybe these trees (I haven&#039;t tested either yet) can provide some inspiration to others. Would be very interested in any feedback or experience concerning them as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonna throw some more of my thoughts and experience to the mix. Managed to beat all 3 difficulties with this build 100% solo, ~95% self-found (got donated a few items by a person who died in hardcore, but no trading with other players of any sort besides that). This was in open beta following the original skill tree and other suggestions. 0 deaths in normal, about 10 each in cruel and merciless (most notable issues with Weaver, Vaal, Kole, Piety). No experience with any other builds in this game, but I really like the concept of this one and being able to solo things is very important for me as well. Plus for some reason I like str/dex builds way more than int ones in these kind of games.</p>
<p>When the game was fully released I tried to make this build work out with 3 auras, but it was both difficult and didn&#8217;t seem worthwhile. After some reading/thinking it seems that 2 will have to do (grace (or determination) + hatred) and extra defense will come from Cast when damage taken (unleveled) + Decoy Totem + Enduring Cry + Enfeeble or something similar (idea from the Blender guide brought up by Cpt). Seems like Cleave needs to be replaced with Dual Strike + Melee Splash as well. <a href="http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAmSu9gavFR35lTYTZWNtT35uDhO907XrvYEsFLUCgnrm-p9JNwA_v42NwNJO2QU4qKaUl3xv6pBkB3L6KeA1YrzboAeefy6cw974UIFBHGS4n7fPdrKpyqXzZ1I-53fIv7w7nUlRJRmmpbrXybqpKyF8_9kiMz1BQWGPG2D38fLgpLmxGcmwyCRc-IWASIF6Lz_gR1WBBV5ebLRRxQarxiidP-Ov3Mluv3Q38xWegh3ZKfbcXOJZ469yC5wrvetN-cHIDh5VmG61I7niuypAXHVz5" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s my current passive tree plan</a>. I&#8217;ve also created a little side-project Scion in Domination league with largely the same foundation except I&#8217;ll be using Spectral Throw with Greater/Lesser Multiple Projectiles support and a 2-handed weapon &#8211; planning to go for <a href="http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAm12omvKXWlJKyG6qtfKpbmxGcmwyCSft892sqnKpfNkZLtSPud3yL-8O51JUSV8_9kiMz1BQWGPG2D38fLgpLngNWK826DpSMn4B55_LpzD3vhQgUEe-igHcpBkb-iXfYSGE2WVNR36rxW5pvqfSTcAP1e1qk7ZBTioppYTvdO1672BLBS1AoJ65hyk7KAOWbj1gQ4MJns3SIVcN2WFGaamUkGyHaluv3Q38xWegh3ZKfVb6iiLA83z1wKZVtcEE3D0hVTkOqXP8iesJCZYnIK3kEtkaPg==" rel="nofollow">these passives</a>. Both get about 160-170% life from nodes and it&#8217;s easy to switch out damage for life when necessary. I don&#8217;t like specializing weapon-wise so planning to take generic damage nodes only. I really like playing solo, fully cleaning areas and reading/listening to npc chats/lore so I&#8217;m moving forward rather slowly though. Maybe these trees (I haven&#8217;t tested either yet) can provide some inspiration to others. Would be very interested in any feedback or experience concerning them as well.</p>
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		By: admin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2909&quot;&gt;admin&lt;/a&gt;.

With Bringer of Rain (Dual Strike, Melee Splash, Added Fire Damage, Multistrike) my damage is 1k higher compared to when I&#039;m using a 6-linked chest. BUT, I can&#039;t sustain Dual Strike as the cost increases to 66 mana/attack, which is practically my entire mana pool after Hatred and Grace. Doesn&#039;t work unless you also have a Soul Taker. I can sort of sustain it with mana by removing Added Fire Damage my but DPS drops by an additional 5k. Blood Magic would fix sustain issues, but not the damage.

The biggest upside to The Bringer of Rain is that it&#039;s cheap compared to getting a 6-linked chest. Downside, you need Dream Fragments so you can&#039;t get Frozen (another 3ex), and you will lose any defenses by not having a chestpiece. And Soul Taker ain&#039;t cheap either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2909">admin</a>.</p>
<p>With Bringer of Rain (Dual Strike, Melee Splash, Added Fire Damage, Multistrike) my damage is 1k higher compared to when I&#8217;m using a 6-linked chest. BUT, I can&#8217;t sustain Dual Strike as the cost increases to 66 mana/attack, which is practically my entire mana pool after Hatred and Grace. Doesn&#8217;t work unless you also have a Soul Taker. I can sort of sustain it with mana by removing Added Fire Damage my but DPS drops by an additional 5k. Blood Magic would fix sustain issues, but not the damage.</p>
<p>The biggest upside to The Bringer of Rain is that it&#8217;s cheap compared to getting a 6-linked chest. Downside, you need Dream Fragments so you can&#8217;t get Frozen (another 3ex), and you will lose any defenses by not having a chestpiece. And Soul Taker ain&#8217;t cheap either.</p>
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		By: admin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2913&quot;&gt;AbztraK&lt;/a&gt;.

Doesn&#039;t do anything to help with lackluster damage.]]></description>
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<p>Doesn&#8217;t do anything to help with lackluster damage.</p>
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		By: Cpt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cpt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2909&quot;&gt;admin&lt;/a&gt;.

I started with a new duelist (it&#039;s annoying but what else can I do), I probably won&#039;t have the currency to get the Bringer of Pain tho so I&#039;ll be using normal gear to make it work...I can report as I come closer to merciless of how good it is.]]></description>
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<p>I started with a new duelist (it&#8217;s annoying but what else can I do), I probably won&#8217;t have the currency to get the Bringer of Pain tho so I&#8217;ll be using normal gear to make it work&#8230;I can report as I come closer to merciless of how good it is.</p>
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		By: AbztraK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AbztraK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[what about Vaal Pact as a Keystone for this build?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about Vaal Pact as a Keystone for this build?</p>
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		By: admin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2909&quot;&gt;admin&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah that&#039;s pretty much exactly what I&#039;m going towards right now.  My skill tree is a bit different, but basically lot more damage points than before, using Dual Strike + Melee Splash.

I&#039;ll see if I can get a Bringer of Rain later today to compare DPS with and without.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2909">admin</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah that&#8217;s pretty much exactly what I&#8217;m going towards right now.  My skill tree is a bit different, but basically lot more damage points than before, using Dual Strike + Melee Splash.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see if I can get a Bringer of Rain later today to compare DPS with and without.</p>
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		By: Cpt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cpt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2909&quot;&gt;admin&lt;/a&gt;.

Resistance wasn&#039;t such a problem in my case it was the armor and the horrible DPS that I got (even after using a lot of points for higher attack speed and damage it was still lower).
I was thinking of trying something like this: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/491481
But I got no idea how gear dependent it is for now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2909">admin</a>.</p>
<p>Resistance wasn&#8217;t such a problem in my case it was the armor and the horrible DPS that I got (even after using a lot of points for higher attack speed and damage it was still lower).<br />
I was thinking of trying something like this: <a href="http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/491481" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/491481</a><br />
But I got no idea how gear dependent it is for now.</p>
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		By: admin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2908&quot;&gt;Denravi&lt;/a&gt;.

I practically haven&#039;t played any other build besides this one for the past 7-8 months. It&#039;s unusual but I just can&#039;t explain how amazingly fun it was for me. Whatever else I tried was either not fun (dual totems seriously?) or just weak without insane gear.

I was also incredibly excited for the release patch, so when I logged in and saw my Cleave went down from 16k DPS to 8K in addition to having less armor and resists, it didn&#039;t really motivate me to keep playing.

I liked the build as well, and like you I hope the revert at least the Cleave nerf. I&#039;m not even sure why it was nerfed; possibly because of quick leveling for race events or strong Elemental Cleave damage, but neither of those two reasons should really affect lategame physical cleavers. Sad day for all of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.leveling-guides.com/dual-wield-physical-damage-duelistmarauder-build/#comment-2908">Denravi</a>.</p>
<p>I practically haven&#8217;t played any other build besides this one for the past 7-8 months. It&#8217;s unusual but I just can&#8217;t explain how amazingly fun it was for me. Whatever else I tried was either not fun (dual totems seriously?) or just weak without insane gear.</p>
<p>I was also incredibly excited for the release patch, so when I logged in and saw my Cleave went down from 16k DPS to 8K in addition to having less armor and resists, it didn&#8217;t really motivate me to keep playing.</p>
<p>I liked the build as well, and like you I hope the revert at least the Cleave nerf. I&#8217;m not even sure why it was nerfed; possibly because of quick leveling for race events or strong Elemental Cleave damage, but neither of those two reasons should really affect lategame physical cleavers. Sad day for all of us.</p>
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